Liberation
Through The Worship Of The
Current Tirthankara
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Who Simandhar Swami
is? Would you please grace
us by giving this understanding?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Simandhar Swami is a tirthankara
Lord. Just like Lord Rushabdev
and Lord Mahavir who were
here. Lord Simandhar is
like them. He is currently
in another location called
Mahavideh Kshetra.
There
are three types of tirthankaras:
tirthankaras of the past,
tirthankaras of the present
and tirthankaras of the
future. The Tirthankaras
of the past are gone. Worship
of these tirthankaras binds
merit karma. In addition
to this, adherence to the
instructions of the one
whose reign prevails will
give rise to worldly religion,
dharma. This is beneficial
in guiding one towards moksha.
However,
it is entirely a different
matter when you invoke the
current Tirthankara. The
one who is currently present
has the supreme value. It
is like money in the form
of cash; cash is more useful.
Money that is yet to come
is called future income.
And that, which is gone,
is gone. So what we need
is cash. That is why I am
introducing you to the One
who is presently living.
“This is the cash
bank of Divine Solution!”
You need to have cash on
hand, not in form of credit.
We all still continue to
pay obeisance to the twenty-four
Tirthankaras of the past,
do we not?
The
Enlightened Ones have said
that the twenty-four Tirthankaras
are Tirthankaras of the
past. They had become Tirthankaras
in the past and are no longer
here. Therefore one should
look for a living Tirthankara.
One makes progress in the
worldly life by worshipping
the Tirthankaras of the
past, but one does not gain
any benefit towards liberation.
Liberation is only attained
through the ones who are
living and present.
Who Do we Bow to in ‘Namo
Arihantanam’?
With
what understanding do people
of today recite the Navkar
Mantra (Namokar Mantra)?
When I ask them who are
the arihants, they tell
me that all the past twenty-four
tirthankaras are arihant.
So then I ask them, ‘
if the twenty-four tirthankaras
are the arihants, then who
are the siddhas?’
These tirthankaras were
arihants at one time, but
have now become siddhas.
So who is the arihant now?
When people say, “Namo
Arihantanam”, who
do they believe is the arihant?
The
twenty-four tirthankaras
were indeed arihants when
they were living but they
have now attained nirvana
(the ultimate liberation
of an enlightened being),
they have attained final
moksha and have now become
siddha and consequently
they fall in the category
of siddhanum. People still
continue to think of them
as arihants. They do not
know that these tirthankaras
have become siddhas. This
is how everything has been
moving along in the wrong
direction, and that is why
the Navkar Mantra does not
give any rewards. I tell
them that Simandhar Swami
is the arihant today. Only
those who are currently
present and living can be
called arihants.
Upon
their departure, the last
of the twenty-four tirthankaras
had said that since the
cycle of twenty-four tirthankaras
was ending on Earth, there
would be no more tirthankaras
on this planet for this
time cycle. He, Lord Mahavir,
asked people to worship
the living tirthankaras
in Mahavideh Kshetra! In
Mahavideh Kshetra there
are living tirthankaras.
But people have forgotten
this and have continued
to worship the tirthankaras
of the past. Lord Mahavir
had told us everything.
Lord
Mahavir had revealed everything!
He knew that there would
be no more arihants on Earth,
so who would the people
worship? He therefore made
public the knowledge about
the presence of Lord Simandhar
Swami and the nineteen other
tirthankaras at Mahavideh.
Once this information was
divulged, it opened up this
path of liberation. Acharya
Kundakunda also revived
this message a few centuries
ago.
The
arihant title is given to
the One who exists in living
form. The one who is siddha
is without a body form and
this is also called nirvana
or final liberation or moksha.
These siddhas cannot be
called arihants after this.
When
Does The Navkar Mantra Give
Results?
That
is why the instructions
‘to bow to the arihant’
have come forth. They then
ask me who and where the
arihant is. I tell them
to ‘bow down to Simandhar
Swami. He is present in
this universe. Today he
is arihant. Therefore bow
and send you obeisance to
Him’. We can reap
rewards if we worship the
arihants. Do it thus:‘I
am bowing down to the arihant,
whoever and wherever he
may be in this entire universe’.
This will yield wonderful
results.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Are there not twenty
tirthankaras moving about
at the present time?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes. Only if you understand
that the twenty who are
currently present are the
arihants, then your recital
of the Navkar Mantra will
bring results. That is why
it is necessary to bow down
to Simandhar Swami. There
are many people who do not
know about the existence
of these twenty tirthankaras.
Many have the opinion: ‘What
do we have to do with them?’
and believe that the twenty-four
tirthankaras of the past
are the only arihants. Because
of such mistakes there is
so much confusion and harm
in the spiritual world.
One can only benefit if
a tirthankara is present
today.
Your
Navkar Mantra recital can
only be considered exact
and correct if while reciting
it, Simandhar Swami comes
to your mind and the obeisance
is done to Him.
People
ask me why I make them say
Simandhar Swami’s
name and not the other twenty-four
tirthankaras? I tell them
we pay obeisance to the
past twenty-four tirthankaras
also, but I do it the exact
and correct way. We give
more importance to Simandhar
Swami, because he is the
current tirthankara. Only
He receives the obeisance
of ‘Namo Arihantanam’.
He
Is, Is Currently Present,
and is Directly Accessible
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Is Simandhar Swami
in manifest form, live and
visible to all?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes. He is currently present,
directly accessible, has
a physical body and at present
lives and moves about as
a tirthankara at Mahavideh
Kshetra.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
If
Simandhar Swami is in Mahavideh
Kshetra, then how can be
considered to be live and
present for us?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
If Simandhar Swami were
to be in Calcutta, even
then He would be live and
present, although you may
not have seen him. This
is the same for Mahavideh
Kshetra.
Difference
Between Direct and Indirect
Worship
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Is there a difference
in benefits between worshipping
Simandhar Swami and Lord
Mahavir?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Lord Mahavir would not listen
to your prayers. Nevertheless
it is good to pray to Lord
Mahavir if one does not
pray to Simandhar Swami.
But who would listen to
any prayers for Lord Mahavir?
He has nothing to do with
us anymore. He is now a
siddha, totally liberated
and without a body. It is
we who continue to make
images of Him and insist
on keeping these images.
He cannot be called a tirthankara
now, just as you cannot
call a past president a
president. He can only be
called a siddha. It is only
Simandhar Swami who will
benefit you.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
So
we only get rewards for
saying "Namo Arihantanam"
only, and not from saying
"Namo Siddhanam?"
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
No other rewards. It is
up to you to decide your
destination. For example
if you are traveling to
London, then London remains
in your awareness as your
final destination, you do
not have to be reminded
of it. Similarly going towards
moksha and the siddha state,
final liberation will remain
in your awareness. It is
the arihant that is the
most beneficial to you of
all for your liberation.
So now focus everything
exclusively towards Simandhar
Swami. As such there are
nineteen other tirthankaras
but Simandhar Swami is very
important to this world
and especially for India
and so we should dedicate
our life to Him.
Vision
To See God
The
Mumukshu Questions:
What is the routine activity
of Simandhar Swami in Mahavideh
Kshetra?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
What activity?
He is the Lord. People do
His darshan (to look upon
or see with reverence, to
experience what He is experiencing
spiritually) there. When
He speaks, His speech is
without any attachment and
therefore liberates the
listener. This speech is
called deshna.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
What else does Simandhar
Swami do in Mahavideh Kshetra?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
He does not have to ‘do’
anything. His actions depend
upon the unfolding of his
karmas. All ego is completely
gone and He remains in Gnan
(absolute awareness) all
day long, as did Lord Mahavir.
He has a lot of followers
and devotees around him.
Moksha
Through Mere Darshan
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Please describe
the darshan of Simandhar
Swami.
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Simandhar Swami, at the
moment one hundred and fifty
thousand years old. He too,
is like Lord Rishabhdev.
Lord Rishabhdev is considered
Lord of the whole universe.
Shree Simandhar Swami too
is the Lord of the whole
universe. He is not here
on our planet, but He is
in another location in this
universe, where human beings
can not go with their physical
body. For Gnanis have the
ability to send their energy
to Him, ask questions and
return with answers. One
cannot go there with this
physical body, but it is
possible to be born there.
Here
in Bharat Kshetra, our world,
tirthankaras have ceased
to be born since two thousand
and five hundred years.
At Mahavideh Kshetra a birth
of tirthankaras is a continuous
ongoing event. Tirthankara
means the final, “full
moon” (absolute, total,
complete knowldge). Simandhar
Swami is residing there
now.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Is
He the all-knowing God?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
He can see us. He can see
the whole world, but we
cannot see Him.
Simandhar
Swami is at another location
in the universe. All this
is beyond one’s intellect,
and incomprehensible. This
fact is exact and clear
in my Gnan, my absolute
vision and knowledge. Mere
darshan of The Lord will
bring forth salvation for
many many people of this
world.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
What does His body
look like? Is it like ours?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
It is just like ours, like
that of a human being.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
What
is the size of His body?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
His body is very large and
He is very tall. He is quite
different. His life span
is very long.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Where is Mahavideh
kshetra where Simandhar
Swami lives?
What Is It like?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
It is completely separate
from this galaxy. It is
in the northeast direction.
All the kshetras are separate.
It is not possible to go
there.
The
Mumukshu Questions: Is
Mahavideh kshetra considered
separate from our Bharat
Kshetra?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes, completely separate.
Tirthankaras continue to
be born in Mahavideh Kshetra,
whereas here in our Bharat
kshetra, tirthankaras are
born only during a certain
time of the time cycle.
During certain time periods
there are no tirthankaras
here. But at the moment
Simandhar Swami is present
for us. He is going to live
for a very long time.
The
Geography Of Mahavideh Kshetra
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Can
you give us more details
about Mahavideh Kshetra?
Is it true what is written
in our scriptures about
Mount Meru being so many
jojans (a measurement of
distance equal to eight
miles) high?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
It is true. It is exact.
It is all measured and calculated,
even the life span. Yes,
everything is according
to calculations.
In
the universe there is this
middle world of ours. There
is a total fifteen such
worlds. The middle world
is round. People are not
able to understand anything
more about this. The atmosphere
between the different worlds
is such that it is not possible
for one to go from one world
to another. There are fifteen
worlds where human beings
can take birth and live.
Ours is one of them. Besides
the Earth, there are fourteen
other locations where there
are human beings just like
us. Presently on the Earth
it is the time cycle of
Kaliyug, whereas Satyug
is prevalent in other worlds.
In Kaliyug there is no unity
in thoughts, speech and
acts. In Satyug there is
unity in thoughts, speech
and acts.
Simandhar
Swami is now one hundred
and fifty years thousand
years old will live for
another one hundred and
twenty-five thousand years.
He was born long before
Lord Rama. Lord Ram was
a Gnani, and although he
was born here on the Earth,
He was able to see Simandhar
Swami. Simandhar Swami is
responsible for the salvation
of the world.
Lord
Simandhar:The Savior Of
The World
The
Mumukshu Questions: Are
there any tirthankaras living
in other locations besides
Mahavideh kshetra (worlds)?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
There are fifteen worlds:
five Bharat, five Airavat,
and five Mahavideh. At the
present time, there are
no tirthankaras in any of
the five Bharat worlds or
five the five Airavat worlds.
The other five Mahavideh
Kshetras, however, have
the time cycle of the fourth
segment called Satyug. Tirthankaras
are present there. The fourth
segment of the time cycle
constantly prevails in Mahavideh
Kshetra. Here, for us, the
time cycle keeps rotating
from the first to the sixth.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
When do we have tirthankaras
here?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Tirthankaras will be present
here on earth during the
third and the fourth time
cycle.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
And they will be
born here, in India, and
not anywhere else, right?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Only on this land! Only
on this very land can we
have tirthankaras.
The
Mumukshu Questions: Is
there some special significance
to this land?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
This land is considered
very elevated spiritually.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Why
is only Simandhar Swami
worshipped and not the other
nineteen tirthankaras who
are also living and present?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
The others too may be worshipped,
but only Simandhar Swami
has an account with Hindustan.
It is his bhaav, deep inner
intent. Of the twenty current
living tirthankaras, Simandhar
Swami has to be particularly
revered because He is the
closest to our Bharat Kshetra
and He has an obligation
towards it because of a
subtle bond due to interactions
of past karmic deeds. Even
tirthankaras have karmic
accounts. Simandhar Swami
is living and present today.
So
whom can you call an arihant?
Simandhar Swami and the
other nineteen tirthankaras
are the arihants, but it
is not necessary to maintain
a connection with all of
them. If you keep relations
with one, the rest will
automatically be included.
So do darshan of Simandhar
Swami. Bow down with reverence
and say, "Dear Arihant
Bhagwan! You only are the
true arihant here today!"
Unity
in the Mind-Body-Speech
Exists Over There
People
in Mahavideh Kshetra are
just like the humans on
Earth, with similar physical
bodies and emotions.
The
Mumukshu Questions: Dada,
isn't the life span long
there?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes, they have a very long
life span; otherwise they
are just like us. Their
day-to-day conduct is just
like ours used to be during
the fourth time cycle. People
of this fifth time cycle
have learnt to steal from
others and gossip amongst
their relatives. Such interactions
are not to be found there.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Is
life interaction there similar
to ours here?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes, people bind karmas
there too. They also have
the awareness of, ‘I
am the ‘doer’.
They also have ego, anger,
pride, attachment and greed.
There is a presence of tirthankaras
there right now because
of the fourth time cycle,
otherwise everything there
is just like it is here.
The
only difference between
the fourth and fifth time
cycles is that in the former,
there is unity of the mind,
speech and body, whereas
in the fifth time cycle,
this unity is broken. People
in the fifth time cycle
do not say what they think
and they do not do what
they say, while in the fourth
time cycle, people say and
do exactly what is on their
mind. If a person living
in the fourth time cycle
says he feels like burning
down the whole village,
you can be assured that
he will do so. Today, there
is no substance in what
people say or think.
From
Which World Can One Go There?
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Under what conditions
can one go there, if one
wants to?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
One become like the ones
who live there. If he acquires
the qualities of the people
in the fourth time cycle,
if he loses the negative
characteristics, which prevail
during the fifth time cycle,
he can go there. For example,
if someone were to insult
you and you have no bad
feelings or thoughts towards
that person whatsoever,
then you will go there.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Ordinarily one cannot
attain moksha, final liberation,
directly from here. One
has to go to Mahavideh kshetra
and then attain moksha from
there. Why so?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
That is just the way these
worlds are. If a person’s
characteristics and traits
become suitable for the
fourth time cycle, and even
though he may not have received
Self-realization, he will
be pulled there. Likewise
if the people over there
become like those of the
fifth time cycle, they will
be pulled here. Such is
the nature of these worlds.
No one has to be taken there
or brought here. The nature
of these worlds will transport
one to the tirthankaras.
This is why we give importance
to Simandhar Swami. Therefore,
those who constantly revere
Lord Simandhar, worship
Him, do His live darshan
there, be near Him, sit
at His feet, will all be
liberated completely.
Those
who receive this Gnan will
have one or two more lives
only. They have to go to
Simandhar Swami and do His
darshan. That is all that
remains for them. His very
darshan gives moksha. This
darshan is higher than the
darshan of Dada. Once this
darshan is done, moksha
happens.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Does
everyone who do Simandhar
Swami's darshan attain moksha?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Merely doing His darshan,
seeing Him will not lead
to liberation. One has to
receive His grace. One’s
heart should become pure.
As one’s heart becomes
pure, His blessings are
bestowed. People come there
around Him to listen to
Him and what they hear sounds
wonderful to their ears,
but they do not make any
progress. This is because
they still have a desire
to enjoy trivial worldly
things. It is like having
a platter full of delicious
food, but because the pickle
is missing, a person does
not eat. People forget their
moksha in their pursuit
of insignificant things.
After
Gnan One Gets Born At Mahavideh
Those
who have acquired the awareness
of their pure Self (Self-Realization)
here will no longer be able
to remain in Bharat kshetra.
It is a principle that those
who have the awareness of
the Soul will go to Mahavideh
kshetra. They will not be
able to remain in this current
time cycle of destruction
Having the awareness of
the pure Soul, they will
spend one or two more lives
at Mahavideh kshetra, there
they will do darshan of
the tirthankara and then
attain moksha. That is how
easy this path is.
Dada Bhgawan Connects You
To Lord Simandhar
You
need a medium through which
you can make a connection
with Simandhar Swami. That
medium is ‘Dada Bhagwan’.
Say for example, if Lord
Mahavir were in Delhi at
this time, He could easily
be reached. Similarly Simahdhar
Swami can also be reached
although here it may take
thirty seconds longer.
He
is present now but he is
not in our world, He is
in another world. I have
a connection with Him and
the whole world should benefit
from this. I am just a mere
go-between (nimit-instrument).
I make you do His darshan
through ‘Dada Bhagwan’,
and it reaches Him. That
is why you still have one
more birth so that you can
go to Simandhar Swami.
I
have such good relationship
with Simandhar Swami that
if you do His darshan as
I instruct you, it will
reach Him all the way.
Special
Key For Darshan Through
Dada Bhagwan
The
Mumukshu Questions:
When we worship
Simandhar Swami, how does
our worship reach there
since He is in Mahavideh
kshetra, and we are here?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Would it not reach Him if
He were in Calcutta?
The
Mumukshu Questions:
It
will reach there, but isn’t
this too far?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
This is just like Calcutta.
You cannot visualize it.
It is same as Calcutta!
Whether He is in Calcutta
or Baroda or Mahavideh,
you cannot see Him with
your eyes, can you?
The
Mumukshu Questions:
So does whatever
worship we do in his name
or feelings we have for
him, reach Him?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
It reaches Him instantly.
There is direct worship
and indirect worship. In
indirect he is far away
and in direct is present
in front of you and is visible
or can be discerned through
the senses.
The
Mumukshu Questions: But
how much benefit is there
in indirect worship? What
is the difference between
benefits derived from direct
and indirect worship?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Indirect can be three miles
or thousands of miles away
but it is one and the same.
The distance is not important.
The
Mumukshu Questions:
But He is the current
living Tirthankara and therefore
direct, is He not?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Actually nothing can be
achieved without a direct
worship. Right now I am
introducing you to Him and
making you recite His prayers
everyday. It is there that
you will have to go! The
day you do His darshan will
be the day of your liberation!
That is the final darshan!
The
Mumukshu Questions:
In Mahavideh kshetra?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes. I am concerned about
your spiritual progress.
I am a meddlesome Gnani.
I make those who take my
Gnan such that there is
only one more life left
for them. I am nor able
to liberate them completely
from here. Therefore, I
make you recite His name!
I make you recite daily
the obeisance to Simandhar
Swami, the Pancha Parmeshtis,
(the enlightened ones at
Mahavideh kshetra) and the
nineteen other Tirthankaras,
for only one reason. And
that is because that is
your final destination for
liberation. That is your
aim and final worship from
hereon. This is not here
in this world. This is why
through ‘Dada Bhagwan’
I introduce you to Simandhar
Swami.
Imagine
that this is Mahavideh kshetra
and Simandhar Swami is in
Calcutta.We all are here
in Baroda. How many times
would you go there to do
His darshan?
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Once or at the most, twice.
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
Yes, at the most twice.
So even by being in Mahavideh
Kshetra one would benefit
just this much. But I have
such a key that would give
you the same benefits every
day. You have to use it
daily. Simandhar Swami will
take note that there have
not been such devotees before,
who do darshan everyday,
and that too, from a foreign
world! You do not need any
form of transportation to
go to Him, whereas people
over there need transportation
to do His darshan.
Without A Medium There Is
No Connection
The
Mumukshu Questions:
Is
it a fact that when I say:
“With the direct Dada
Bhagwan as my witness, I
offer my infinite obeisances
to the current living tirthankara
Shri Simandhar Swami, who
at present is moving about
at Mahavideh kshetra.”
he is able to receive and
see that I am sending this
obeisance?
The
Liberated Soul Answers:
He sees in from a general
and total prespective, not
specifically. These tirthankaras
do not see specifics. It
reaches Him because it is
said through the medium
of ‘Dada Bhagwan’.
It is not possible without
a medium.
‘A. M. Patel’,
‘ Gnani Purush’,
And ‘Dada Bhagwan’
Are Separate
As
mentioned in the books,
the person you see in front
of you is ‘A. M. Patel’.
I am a Gnani Purush and
the One who is manifest
within me is ‘Dada
Bhagwan’. He is the
Lord of the fourteen worlds.
No one has ever heard of
such a manifestation before.
I have never said that I
am God. That would be madness.
People may say so, but not
I. I will say it as it is.
I am a Gnani Purush and
my spiritual level is at
356 degrees. I lack the
four degrees in attaining
keval Gnan (perfect, absolute
knowledge, 360 degress).
But Dada Bhagwan within,
is a different matter altogether.
For worldly interactions
and dealings I am ‘A.M.
Patel.’
Most
people would not understand
this subtle distinction,
which is why I have to say
that, ‘Dada Bhagwan’
is manifest within me. Ask
Him for whatever you want
and get your work done.
Very rarely does the Lord
of the fourteen worlds manifest.
I see it myself, that is
why I am telling you to
get your work done!
That Darshan Reaches Instantly!
When
people get up in the morning,
there is not much crowd
around, right? And by the
evening it gets extremely
crowded because every body
is moving around. The time
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